TOP: P. W. Botha, left, and Nelson Mandela, then South Africa’s president, discussing Truth Commission hearings in 1997. Mr. Botha refused to testify before the panel. BOTTOM: Mr.Botha outside court during his trial in 1998 for refusing to appear at Truth Commission hearings. He was found guilty of contempt but the conviction was overturned.
'Nelson Mandela led South Africans on Wednesday in remembering former President P.W. Botha, the defiant face of apartheid who doggedly clung to white rule and refused to free Mandela from jail[...]Mandela spent 27 years behind bars, including about a decade under the rule of Botha, who was at the helm during South Africa's most tumultuous years and struggled in vain to preserve apartheid white rule.
[...] Mandela's statement reflected the core policy of reconciliation that underpinned his own presidency. read more here or read more here (NYtimes)
mandela has been at the center of attention for quite some time as a great leader and example of progressive nation building tactics. but when he goes on to lead the tribute to botha, i began to get worrried. there is forgiveness of folks who do wrong and apologize and then there is leading a tribute to a man who clung onto white-control, never apologized and never acknowledged his wrong. even with forgiveness, the forgiveness of a man should never be conflated with the forgiveness of apartheid. there is forgiveness, then there is praising your colonizers, slave owner and the man who put his foot in your neck.
shall i tell palestinians to give a high five to the IDF and the israeli government? should we go back in time and get slaves to lead a ceremony for slave owners and leaders of the confederate army? i mean damn.
botha died without ever apologizing or ever acknowledging his wrong. apparently, his wife barbara believes that her husband had been "terribly misunderstood" and that south africans would come to realize what they had lost. she says and i quote, "the man cared about everyone, irrespective of what politics said. he really cared. he wanted everyone to have a piece of the pie." if apartheid was a manifestation of this 'care,' i'd hate to see what he would do if he didn't 'care' about black south africans.
*suppressed interview: in even more interesting news, back in january of this year, SABC, e-tv and M-Net have declined to air Cliff saunders' interview with former state president PW botha. there have been accusations of censorship, however spokespersons have argued that '[the interview] does not meet our criteria for broadcast and the interview is not at this stage suitable for our audience.' the interview recorded before the 'end of apartheid' apparently, has crude references to black folks. maybe there are editing issues, but let's not pretend white south africans still do not think like botha did/does(?). either way its ridiculous. you can catch a preview here. WITS is being shady about bandwidth allowances so i can't actually see the preview, so let me know what you think. i wonder if they will show the interview now that he is dead...or will it continue to be suppressed to 'protect' his image.



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kameelah, i love the fact that you end up in south africa and are just finding yourself doing one interview after another. shit doesn't even seem to be that big of a deal to you, its amazin. but tell me when you end up on TV so I can try to get it off youtube.
this is probably the most sambo type shit i've ever heard occurring in my lifetime
hahahaa neema. i am trying to get to this joburg inner city summit to talk to some more people and i am going to this urban land conference (http://www.urbanlandmark.org.za/docs/Urban%20Land%20Seminar%201st%20Ann.pdf) in 2 weeks. should be interesting. talking to people has been the best way of learning here.
isnt this mandela shish on another level?? i mean daaaaamn, mandela just lead a tribute to the icon of apartheid. neville alexander breaks it down. the sad thing is that i am not hearing too much of an uproar about this mess of a situation. i read some stuff about its not part of the "culture" to celebrate the death of someone no matter how terrible he is. i am not convinced. the hush-hush patronizing, historical amnesia discursive acrobatics is just a bit ridiculous.
Kameel - i have also posted your piece in this weeks pambazuka roundup to be published on thursday
cheers - leaving SA tomorrow with a heavy heart - hopefully I will return despite still having lots of issues with the country - people have welcomed me and i have made so many new friends and felt very much appreicated. Hopefully next time we will be able to meet up for a chat.
i just found another organization that is criticizing the ANC, but their main supporters in south africa have been those that are part of that group whose site got shot down. either way, here's their site.
http://www.waronwant.org/Poverty+in+post+apartheid+South+Africa+4798.twl
but man, i shall try to raise awareness whateverway possible here about the growing connditions of poverty in south africa.
It's just funny to see you guys hate what's going on. Why not accepting the fact that Mandela CAN forgive...DO YOU NOT WANT HIM TO FORGIVE!! for goodness sake! Get things BEHIND you, let South AFricans get ON with their lives!!! Don't you want to see a country FREE of hate/free of "war" a BEAUTIFUL country in PEACE!!!! GET A LIFE!!!
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